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TOPIC: Cocks or Cockerels?

Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8254


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Mr. Cryar, I respect your comments and I would like to relay to you that I did not start this thread with an agenda on how to cheat at a show. I am not interested in that at all.
What I witnessed at the last show I attended (January show) was one exhibitor showed 2 cockerels and the judge disqualified them for being cocks? The exhibitor stated that the birds in question were indeed cockerels, but none-the-less they were still disqualified.
Also, some may say look at the spurs but I have two families of birds that are of the same variety and a bird from one family even though he may be 2 - 3 months younger, their spurs out grow the other family by a large degree?
Just food for thought?
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8255


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Exactly scratch he got screwed on that part his birds were 9 months old and go DQ and the guy is super honest and wouldn't lie
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8256


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I understand where you guys are comming from. Way back in the 1980s, I had a good male line of whites. I had some 8 month ckls dqed for age because their "spurs were set." I questioned the judge and he stated that if their spurs were set solid on the legs, they were cocks. I asked him about the one with one spur set and the other still loose. He could not answer. It was many years before I showed under that judge again. Judges should judge by the standard, not their particular likes, dislikes or beliefs.

Play fair, and be honest. You know the age of your birds; the judge, in many cases, can only guess or take your word.

Glen Cryar
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8257


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I guess I am too trusting and believe a man doesn't lie. I also believe when in doubt the bird should get the benefit of the doubt.I got a two and a half year old Columbian cock that spur never developed beyond a half inch long but you can look at him and tell he is a cock.
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8262

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some of our birds come back with a lot of feather, they look like cockerels
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8291


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A cock is a male 12 months old or older and a cockerel is a male under 12 months old. Its up to the exhibitor to honestly enter his birds according to their age.
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Re: Cocks or Cockerels? 4 years 10 months ago #8306

I was in a situation with one of my son's birds this year. He entered a Cockeral in a show and then realized he should have entered a Cock bird. He told me that he was going to show the Cock in the Cockerals place. After he and I discussed the situation, I left the ball in his court ( I was not going to let him do it !!!!!! ). After thinking about it, he comes to me and says, it would be cheating and that is not right. I am going to show the Cockeral. Should there should be a standard on seamless leg bands??? If the bird was hatched off in 2013 this bird could be shown as a Cockeral or Pullet thru May (2014) of the next year????? But I do know that there would be a lot of questions and concerns on this as well. I hate that people get a DG on birds that develop faster than others. Honestly is the best policy!!!
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